But, I hear you ask, what’s the point of irritating your listeners’ tender ears with a biting truth? You should take care that the hallways of the grand old institutions and their oh so distinguished executive directors don’t freeze you out and they will if you keep barking at their hypocrisy on the radio.
Better to say all is quite white alright! Trump is gone (or going) and Joe will be just plain fine. Bravo all! Well done! We’re marvelous! Does that help? ‘Public nuisances like Minus Plato are forbidden here’ You are on holy ground – piss elsewhere. Don’t you see those two painted snakes? Ok, ok, I’ll go away!
So today on Parler Clair Radio we will name some names at Every Time A Ear Di Soun and SAVVY Funk or get all ethical by listening to the emergence of a collective, albeit abject, subject. But after that can me and Pope.L squeak a secret? Just between us? Into some hole? Right here in no man’s land.
I’ll bury it here – in a blogpost in the form of a transcribed audio work as a draft for another book to come. As a sketch.
(Who here among US doesn’t have donkey ears!)
There it is. Our state secret is out. Consider your ears well and truly syringed. Let’s call a cyclops Mr One-Eye and start with a confession.
(For the confession and much more, listen here or read the unedited transcript below)
[‘Socially Dissonanced Funk’ is an extract from Chapter 2: ECHOES of the ongoing online project Like Wind on Rushes which drafts a book to come called Whisper into a Hole.]
Unedited Zoom Transcript
00:00:31Testing, testing 12300:00:40Testing, testing 12300:00:46Can you hear me.00:00:51Know if you can00:00:54So here we are particular up at her parlak Roddy00:01:00Minus Plato production and today is a special, special live show00:01:10It’s just me no guests today and00:01:15The purpose of today’s show.00:01:19Is to00:01:23Record.00:01:25A my reflections on00:01:30The public radio program of documented 14 every time it is sound.00:01:38And also the specific programming by savvy contemporary in Berlin.00:01:45Called savvy funk.00:01:47Both of these were curated by upon of into Deacon00:01:54And curator larger documented 14 00:01:59Also some reflections on to works at documented 14 that we’re not part of the radio show, but we’re part of the public exhibition00:02:13Matin is social dissonance generational concert00:02:19As well as Pope L’s whispering campaign.00:02:24And it will become clear as I talked to you.00:02:29How and why they are resonant with the radio program for the exhibition00:02:40The show is called socially dissonance funk.00:02:46And00:02:48Why I am speaking00:02:51In a rather slow and00:02:55articulate way.00:02:58Is because I’m recording00:03:01This00:03:04Show.00:03:07Sorry, I just had the sound of Alvin Lucy As I’m sitting in a room in my head.00:03:15I’m sitting in a room, different from the one you are in now.00:03:20We’ll come back to this later.00:03:25Anyway,00:03:26So I’m recording it in this way in this way of speaking00:03:31There’s no time limit. I’m putting on myself for this show so I don’t have to rush through anything. It is just me and you.00:03:40Recording it in this way because I want00:03:46I’m currently on zoom recording this through zoom00:03:54And I’m recording it through zoom00:03:57So that it can be annotated00:04:02And then00:04:04Not annotate is what i mean i mean transcribed and then that transcription. I will then post as a blog post on minus Plato later today.00:04:18Now, the reason I’m doing this is socially dissonance funk is the fifth and final installment of my current chapter for a forthcoming collaborative book that I’m writing and as we’re here. Let me just tell you a little bit about the process of that book.00:04:41This is a book that is called whisper into a hole sketches for an unfinished exhibition00:04:51And the idea is that00:04:56The00:04:58Each chapter of the book.00:05:02Engages with a different aspect of the original document of 14 exhibition which took place in 2017 in its traditional home of Castle in Germany, but also for the first time in Athens, Greece.00:05:23So the book is about the ongoing residences.00:05:27Of the exhibition00:05:30But it’s also00:05:33An opportunity to dialogue with artists who were part of that exhibition to pull out the unfinished threads, the unwavering parts of the exhibition together.00:05:47I’ve already drafted one chapter in collaboration with the artist Pelosi Greg eating.00:05:53And that is, was the chapter that was focused on question of sight.00:06:00For colonial and racist violence so museums universities these kinds of institutions.00:06:09And then00:06:11The chapter I’m writing now for which this is the fifth installment00:06:17Is in collaboration with Pope L.00:06:21And the idea is that once I’ve drafted the chapter I send it to the artist and they annotate the chapter with sketches and drawings either already completed or fresh00:06:37So the fact that I’m choosing to00:06:41Give this chapter as an audio file and then have it transcribed and then posted is not only because the chapter is called echoes and it’s focused on question of sound voice and overarching the residence at and beyond document or 1400:07:08And how echoes, an act and unfinished quality to the exhibition for documented 14 the00:07:18Internal echo of Athens and Castle is obviously important, but also how it reverberates after the event.00:07:29I’d love to exhibitions, like the French triennial and Cleveland Toronto’s biennial new biennial Whitney Biennial 2017 and 19 Carnegie international charges 14th biennial00:07:46Berlin Vienna for the 10th and 11th additions.00:07:51The Liverpool biennial nearing the 20 seconds Sydney biennial00:07:58A better corn, a00:08:00Festival in celebration of indigenous art making00:08:05The Honolulu by any of the list goes on.00:08:09Also sauna week00:08:112224 which is curated by one event to and deacon, which is obviously very important for them. So the Chicago architecture biennial anyway loads of00:08:23How I’m going to make way back to the beginning of that sentence. Let me think. And we’ll see how the transcription goes for that anyway.00:08:32So ongoing resonances within and beyond document 1400:08:39So choosing this way is in homage to Pope L and his whispering campaign and I’ll spend some time this afternoon. Speaking about that campaign.00:08:51The00:08:54It’s hard to know where to start. But it was a series of whispered statements that were then transmitted00:09:04In specific sites across Athens and castle.00:09:09Probably the most famous of the phrases that was part of the campaign was00:09:15Ignorance is a virtue.00:09:19And00:09:21This whispering campaign was not just about the sound and the voice and the words that were whispered, but the mechanisms of distribution and transmission, the pope L used00:09:39And so one question we have today is about such transmissions. What forms do we use to transmit and communicate00:09:51Speaking of form TODAY’S SHOW WILL BE MY VOICE reflecting00:09:59My body moving in my chair and00:10:03Other ambient noises from around me putting my elbows on tables rubbing my face.00:10:13Like, but also some clips from some of the commissioned works as well as other programs for every time I it is sound. The public radio documentary 1400:10:29As well as some clips from00:10:33Document 14 in general on site, both from the whispering campaign as well as Matin social dissonance and then also some00:10:43Remnants of students work in that I’ve been engaging with the world of sound. The form of the radio this semester in two classes drawing class code talk with Suzanne snorter in the art department at Ohio State University where I teach00:11:04On the topic of arranged and the typical contemporary theory and art education class that I teach00:11:13And00:11:14That is about the colonial arts education. And so the the form of today. Well, and some of the eclipses today. We’ll come to that.00:11:26Okay, so let me get started. That was kind of preamble and here is another different style of preamble. So you’re listening to Polycom our idea minus Plato production and this is the draft.00:11:46blog post for today.00:11:50As part of the series like wind on rashes that drafts, the book to come called whisper into a hall sketches for an unfinished exhibition and today’s blog post is called socially dissonance fun00:12:13But I hear you ask, what’s the point of irritating.00:12:20Your listeners tender is with a biting truth.00:12:26You should take care of the hallways.00:12:30You should take care of the hallways of those grand old institutions and oh so distinguished executive directors don’t freeze you out and they will if you keep barking of their hypocrisy on the radio.00:12:52Better to say it is all quite white or right Trump is gone, or at least going and Joe will be just plain fine Bravo all well done. We’re marvelous00:13:11Does that help00:13:14Public nuisances like minus Plato are forbidden here. You’re on holy ground peers elsewhere.00:13:24Don’t you see those two painted snakes. Okay. Okay. I’ll move on.00:13:32So today on Pollock klar radio, we will name some names at every time I into sound and savvy funk, as well as enter and re enter the works of social dissonance and whispering campaign.00:13:47And we will get all ethical by listening to the emergence of a collective albeit objects subject.00:13:57That00:14:01spreads across this land.00:14:04But after that.00:14:06Comedian Pope L squeak a secret together.00:14:11Just Between Us.00:14:13Into some home. Right here, right here in no man’s land.00:14:22I’ll barrier right in a blog post as a draft for another book to come the sketch00:14:31Here it is the secret. You’ve been waiting for.00:14:37Listen.00:14:41It’s coming.00:14:44Who00:14:49among us.00:14:52Doesn’t have00:14:55Donkeys00:14:57There it is.00:14:58State secret is out, consider those is of yours well and truly syringed00:15:05And let’s call a Cyclops and Mr one I and start with00:15:11A CONFESSION.00:15:18So for all I heard a documented 14 and all I saw00:15:23There was no all I heard and saw a documentary 14 was not00:15:32Well, I heard and saw a documentary 1400:15:37Was not what I’m going to speak about now.00:15:41For now.00:15:43It will be focused on the radio programs that I didn’t listen to back then, and that is the secret.00:15:53There was faces at the exhibition in both Athens and castle.00:15:59That were devoted to these processes of listening.00:16:04And old library and Athens as part of the Athens School of Fine Arts.00:16:11Where instead of books.00:16:14Headphones hung from shelves.00:16:18aristide Antonia’s his work was part of this that installation of the empty library as part of the empty University.00:16:30And then in Castle.00:16:33I can’t remember the name of the venue, but it was kind of like an Information Center.00:16:39There was some wallpaper by Colombian artist Beatrice Gonzalez00:16:45And another installation by Harris Teeter and turn us00:16:50An open corridor for the series of an empty University.00:16:56So there was ample chance to listen to every time I hear the sound.00:17:02But I didn’t00:17:04I walked on to see the sights and sounds elsewhere, even when preparing for the exhibition, knowing that I would spend so much time there writing a document or 14 diary and both Athens and castle.00:17:18Knowing that I was part of a daily blog writing project that would eventually become the book, no philosopher King and every good day guide to art and life under Trump00:17:30Even though I knew I would be doing that. I didn’t listen in to the radio.00:17:37Even while traveling around Europe or even back here in Columbus, Ohio. I didn’t listen in to the radio.00:17:47Is the shameful secret, it’s one that I reflect on now i didn’t i listen00:17:54Why did I focus so much on what I was seeing or even not that I was still listening when I was there in the exhibition. I had my sound recorder, my little Phillip Phillips voice Teresa that I had. Right. Yeah.00:18:09But I wasn’t listening on the radio.00:18:13Why was that00:18:15And I reflect on that now.00:18:18And now is a chance for me to catch up and now that’s what I’ve been doing since August this year.00:18:25I’ve been trying to catch up by listening to as much as I can. Since00:18:32There’s so much has been lost. You can go right now to the document or 14 website.00:18:43You can go right now to the document or 14 website.00:18:47And you can00:18:50Go to the page that’s called public radio. So you can go double w w w dot documented 14 dot de forward slash forward slash public dash radio00:19:03And you try to click on the links to all of the Commission’s or go to each of the radio stations around the world that broadcast the shows they range from Colombia Cameroon, Germany, the US Brazil.00:19:22Indonesia and Athens.00:19:27You can go there, but you won’t be able to listen, probably due to some00:19:33copyright issues running out for the exhibition, you know, we are sitting here on December 15 2020 and talking about an exhibition that took place in the summer in the spring and summer of 201700:19:48So you should expect to be moving on, really.00:19:53But given that I missed out on the radio back then.00:19:59I really wanted to find a way to reconnect, listen now,00:20:04Not while everything was happening not while it was live while art world tourists were moving from Athens to Castle, maybe not even going to Athens wanting the documentary experience in the summer of 2017 all those years before pandemic would keep us in place.00:20:24And apart.00:20:27To be honest, I think radio is needed today more than back in 201700:20:36In my research and learning about radio. Since then, since this over the past few months.00:20:42I’ve learned to really respect the way that the voice on the radio connects us in a way that a lot of visual art cannot do.00:20:53It’s different. It’s not a competition that I do feel that there’s an intimacy to speaking00:21:00On the radio.00:21:02You’re listening. This is for you.00:21:05I know there’s nothing else.00:21:08Than my voice and your ears at this point.00:21:13Sure I’ll play some clips for handsome. I wouldn’t call it music we never really get to the condition of music on today’s show, but there’ll be other sounds00:21:24Just as before. You may have heard my son running downstairs I think had been some00:21:30packages that arrived in our house.00:21:34Anyway,00:21:35So that’s the secret failure to listen and is what has prompted me to listen now, and to share that listening with us today.00:21:46There’s another secret there. We’ll get to which is more specific to Pope L and our collaboration.00:21:54All I can say now and if you stay listing or find out what I mean by this is the pople made me a thief.00:22:06What I stole00:22:08And how that happened. You have to wait to hear that secret.00:22:14So whispering here today into the whole of the radio.00:22:22That has turned to every time I sound.00:22:29Now, maybe I should let someone else introduce this program.00:22:35Give me a sec. I’ll find00:22:37One of the CO collaborators Marcus garner has a nice introduction. And he can00:22:45I let him describe it, just a little bit what this whole program was phone so here is Marcus gamble talking about every time I hear the sound the document to 14 radio program. And it’s a piece from fresh art international00:23:44For some reason it doesn’t want to play.00:23:48Let me see if I can find00:23:51Maybe this is a sign.00:24:21Fresh Start international presence conversations about creativity in the 21st century.00:24:31Radio00:24:38You do sell this is fresh start to international I’m Kathy bird paranoid radio and Thessaloniki Greece created the signature sound. You just heard.00:24:49They designed the jingle for every time I hear the sound and exciting radio program created for the document of 14 exhibition that takes place in Athens, Greece and Castle Germany this year.00:25:02Today you meet Mark is gonna he’s the Berlin based curator of the weekly sound our program at deutschlandradio couture.00:25:11Marcus has also co curator of this unique audio club form that’s on the air from April 8 through September 17 201700:25:21You can listen 24 hours a day on FM 90.4 and Castle or tune in for four hours a day to hear the program on shortwave radio frequency 15560 daily for our programs. Our broadcasts from stations in nine countries together, they create a worldwide on air art exhibition00:25:46It’s made possible by really kind of really race of eight international partner radio stations, the first being in Greece.00:25:58And then passing through different countries, Colombia, the US Indonesia Germany Libyan on Cameroon and Brazil, of course.00:26:09All the stations agreed to liberate some four hours of their daily program for a period of three weeks each incorporating material provided by Documenta00:26:22And this consists of 30 odd your pieces that have been commissioned by document of 14 and George Leonard I do crew tour.00:26:33And so we asked to 30 international artists from very different backgrounds to deal with the medium of radio and to create an audio, please, particularly for this medium.00:26:45So this will be running through the different stations alongside with material that is being recorded in the documentary public programs.00:26:56So discussions concerts performances and then the partner stations are also incited to go look into their archives and other00:27:10Audio archives in their respective countries and find material that resonates with what documentary is proposing and tells their own story on similar topics. Tell me the provenance of the title, every time I hear the sound. What it means for those participating00:27:32The title comes from a song of deportment America. So it’s deliberately spelled and pigeon obviously by leaving out the age of here, it becomes ears. So there’s a word play in it.00:27:46But it also refers to the African diaspora. The black Atlantic as a kind of model for many migration movements around the world in the past centuries, but also nowadays.00:28:02Sound is a very good medium to convey this kind of migration, because it travels along with those who migrate. They have their languages, their songs00:28:12Their body, the sounds that that come along with them that then infiltrate other cultures that communicate with other cultures that sometimes create misunderstandings that can be productive or dangerous, but always have a certain effect at00:28:49Song song. Song song.00:29:09Every time00:29:15So that is not my00:29:19Wife. Right.00:29:39What up, Brian rockin00:29:47Every00:29:58Time.00:30:04Russia.00:30:33Shut your mouth.00:30:38Them.00:30:39To00:30:42Salesforce.00:31:43This Commission average document.00:31:54So there you could hear00:31:58Not only the introduction by Marcus cannon.00:32:02Who worked with an inventor and Deacon on the public radio program every time I just sound, but also an explanation of the title that comes from deportment to broker and then you heard00:32:16The song. Every time I had a sound I moved to Boca and then you had the opening kind of jingle for the radio program as played on the on radio MEC FM in Rio de Janeiro in Brazil and00:32:34What’s really important here. And something that is part of my encounter with the public radio and my attempt to kind of catch up from not being able to listen or not opening my ears to listen. During the summer of 201700:32:54Was the question of archive Marcus Gamal talked about how each of these stations that were invited to00:33:03Air the commissioned sound works and audio works radio works from documented 14 or also asked to dig into their archives for material that resonated notice he uses that word with the00:33:18curatorial program of documented 14 which was mainly focused on questions of immigration questions of debt questions of the global south within the privilege north and as well as questions of indigenous knowledge feminism postcard politics environmentalism.00:33:41And colonial legacies these kinds of issues and so00:33:46How they are kinds of these radio stations across the world would come into play and and so00:33:55It was with some sense of irony that I felt as I went to the document public radio page and found that I couldn’t listen to00:34:05These Commission sound pieces because they had been taken down from the radio side. So I had to look elsewhere and00:34:13Luckily for me and for us, I guess that the radio MEC of Rio de Janeiro archived and not only their own contributions to every time I hear the sound, but also some of those00:34:30Some of the sound commissions. So I was able to listen to many, not all, but many of the sound commissions thanks to00:34:41This radio station in Brazil and00:34:47Hearing the Portuguese introduction is something that I’ve heard a lot because I’ve been listening to these radio shows. So that’s kind of, I think, about how every time I do sound has been kind of filtered through a Brazilian context.00:35:02Now,00:35:04I’ll play a few clips from some of these shows that are archived on the00:35:11The sound work the sound works that are archived here. I’ll just go through a few of them. Just so you get a clip. So the first one, you’ll listen to is just a clip towards the end of black spirituals and then show that program. What are you listening for very important question.00:38:00One thing I love about this piece of pipe black spirituals00:38:04And just a pseudo black spirituals our00:38:10Collaboration between Marshall travel00:38:14And00:38:16Zachary K Hill and00:38:23Let me check that.00:38:43Zachary00:38:47Zachary James00:38:51James Watkins00:38:57Then Marshall travel00:39:00And00:39:02That title. What are you listening for I just kind of suffered it then like that question of he listening for something to happen. Are you listening. Why are you listening in the first place was something that really kind of resonated with me.00:39:20I’m gonna even try and find another moment in this track where00:39:46Happens.00:40:16Yes, it was a good payment to listen into there.00:40:21Is a rule book pretty colonizing yeah so00:40:25Exactly gender Watkins in Marshall travel black spirituals00:40:31To black artists from the US that are, you know, listen, look for them and listen to them. And that’s the other thing. And I should mention this right here is that you listen to one thing and it leads you to listen to something else.00:40:46And00:40:48Here’s another piece that was very well let me go back to one of the earliest pieces I listened to, which was called well disorder by Elva best in court.00:41:02And here we are in the middle of it.00:41:05Maybe actually the beginning is00:41:08Very intense00:45:11This piece gets pretty intense pretty fast.00:45:22I remember that.00:45:25I was teaching with Suzanne in the drawing class talked about how to incorporate some other radio programs into the class and the initial idea was that listening to Sound could be kind of therapeutic or relaxing during the pandemic, so you don’t have to00:45:46You know, everyone being remote and a lot of tension and stress.00:45:51And whenever I I thought about that. I thought of the beginning of00:45:57Of00:46:00Well disorder.00:46:02By ever been caught00:46:05And so how that wouldn’t work. There’s a common00:46:09Source. Let me just go briefly to the end. And I’m sure I’m breaking many rules of how to play sound on the radio by jumping across just want to try and get us to the end.00:47:44My whole life has been about winning and that was00:47:49A bit00:47:51Better than cause00:47:55Well disorder which quotes the inauguration speech of Donald Trump.00:48:01So we can whisper it here. Not much willing00:48:04It’s happening for President Trump right now so00:48:08Okay, so yeah, these, these sound clips are just purchased the tip of the iceberg. I’m just going to go through a couple more. The beginning to what touches his most by morning hooter made me immediately not want00:48:28To listen any further. And then I’m so glad I did.00:49:09James Webb, some of the world’s00:49:13Up.00:49:26The ass and put our thumb.00:49:29Is00:49:31A great red rain is coming to see us.00:49:37Then there were some Commission’s that were focused on sound and its production shortwave transit Red Tails buying Schumann gas Gupta and sunshine. Gosh.00:49:51The legendary sound artist Alvin current did a show called erode away blues and that was think set where was this, remember00:50:07Which was soundscape yeah recorded in my, in my ambient sounds00:50:13And one of the pieces that00:50:17I found very00:50:19And moving and inspiring that is not on the list of works from on the Brazilian radio show, but you can found find it on on SoundCloud is Maria Chavez.00:50:37Between00:50:39Between the Whisper. Whisper00:50:51Are you into that and this will segue a bit later.00:51:02Between the concert00:51:42Yeah. So anyway, we’ll00:51:46We could spend all afternoon listening into these commissions for every time I hear the sound.00:51:54But let me give you some other kind of frameworks.00:51:59For them.00:52:03I actually, I just have to play one more.00:52:06I just have to play a bit of00:52:10Charles Aubrey and Robert medicines, the gramophone is00:52:24It to00:52:27Prominence you’re00:52:29Talking machine order.00:52:36The weather was so personally autumn address that I was compelled to record with on demand pajamas on and those are the Tennessee look attainable.00:52:47Sounds good.00:52:58The artist since up and down the keyboard and, to my mind, there are no bars rhythm and tempo, yet the counter missed crescendos stops commences and synchronizes perfectly with the singing00:53:12I can best describe the singing as a continual series of Kevin’s us which the harmonium synchronizes with by the tantrum is giving out a continuous series of00:53:26Rising in sinking with the artist in the most Miss Tiffany manner.00:53:59Focus on the recording pioneers. The about noble and Fred guys Berg, who made an one of the earliest sounding recordings in India around 190200:54:11Open Miss are responding to those recordings, as well as having00:54:18The descriptions in collaboration with several Indian artists, also in dialogue with Jacques Derrida his concept of the gramophone affect the way in which the presence of recorded voices has an A stranger effect and and also a potential for the unheard as well.00:54:40Speaking about the potential for the unheard will skip on00:54:45To another violence that stemmed from my engagement with the Commission’s for every time I hear the sound. And that was what to do with the gaps in the archive so00:54:58Frustrated that I couldn’t listen to all of the Commission’s. There was a moment when I realized that maybe I could reach out to individual artists to see if they’d be willing to share00:55:13Their files with me. And also, then, with by extension the classes that I was teaching. So the students that I teach00:55:22And00:55:24To as the context for that were the fact that I’ve encountered00:55:32Artists who were part of the radio program in the main X exhibition. So, for example, they are ashamed to00:55:42Whose work.00:55:44Fractured Atlas was a00:55:49Video work that was shown in the Athens construction Conservatoire but also in the oil Gallery in Castle in a very large installation and projection and Shay to00:56:07Just looking00:56:14Yes, in collaboration with clear Fraser created then Atlas radio, which was the audio track of the film.00:56:23And so I contacted the OH, AND HE generously. Let me the file so that I could then play it for my students, and it’s00:56:36It’s an interesting experience as well because I remember in the email to Thea I said something about hearing voices.00:56:48As part of like beyond the global north and the questions of00:56:53Margin personalized voices and his response really was no the Atlas Fractured Atlas radio were to present a kind of global selection of voices that wasn’t about somehow and undermining the Eurocentric perspective, it was somehow incorporated having a more inclusive perspective.00:57:19Let me just play. Just a couple. We’ll see who we can00:57:35You know that sound and doesn’t sound.00:57:49It’s interesting in all these technical difficulties and thinking how the transcription will work, of course, listening will be more richer experience.00:58:30Everybody00:58:32What is important. What boo. If you want corralled you what drives you torment you.00:58:39Is that you must find some way of using this to connect you and everyone else alive this all you have to do it with you must understand that your pain is trivial except as you can use it.00:58:56To connect with other people’s pain and it’s about, you can do that with your pain you to be released from MIT. And then hopefully it works the other way around to survive. I can tell you what it is like to step.00:59:09Back second help you to suffer less.00:59:14Yeah James Baldwin.00:59:16It’s a gamble which clip I’m going to play, but that was, that was great to listen to theoretician to his Atlas radio00:59:25So, again, to express my gratitude to Theo for sharing that.00:59:31Another00:59:35Artist who00:59:38shared with me was actually was Raven Chaconne of post commodity and he showed me this file, a while ago and I asked him when he was still part of the collective post commodity, along with code TWIST and crystal Latinas00:59:55Raven has his solo projects now. And a lot of my thinking about sound and and listening have been thanks to Raven and his partner the documented 14 curator Candace Hopkins, especially questions of declining ality and listening.01:00:13And also with Raven questions of object and sound and score as well and01:00:24I’m grateful that we were able to play a few seconds at least of the opera.01:00:31That was created for01:00:35Just the area outside of the OD on this. The ancient site of Aristotle’s Lyceum.01:00:41That was called the air. It is between worlds always speaking. And we’re going to return a little bit to this later, but let’s just let’s play a couple of seconds of this01:03:36So that was just a short clip from post commodities. The is between worlds always speaking, that was part of the document. The 14 public program public radio every time I enter sound and generously and01:03:53Made available to play.01:03:56To my students by revenue share icon and members of post commodities. So I think that this is a moment to to move from01:04:07The01:04:09Conditions themselves to how students01:04:16In my two classes this semester, engage with these works. And as we had post commodity there. Let’s go to just brief sections from some students that engage with this. So, this is01:04:30A01:04:31Response by01:04:34Lori Esposito to the post commodity piece. And I’ll just play just a few seconds on it.01:04:42And and then following that RP Kayla Gifford who for the drawing class.01:04:54A very different way.01:06:42central theme.01:06:50As West teams hip hop musical form born from the wreckage of the drug.01:06:55That is both the symptom, and the most powerful weapon or radical thought as we are told, and extended acapella soliloquy.01:07:21Us.01:07:25A01:07:30Propellant folks.01:07:44gaze upon the land.01:07:49Channeling post commodity.01:07:52Notice a reference to your work by the collective repellent fence.01:07:59And then here is Kayla Gifford her act five supplements the01:08:09I’m going to go towards the end. And just the whispering element comes back from the01:08:14Future that you heard me mentioned01:09:04From the first the first time.01:09:09So the deal is like on free01:09:17Dressing01:09:20Sean01:09:22Did01:09:26You01:09:31Go drink every day.01:09:37Act five01:09:40In response to post commodity. So yeah, as I said, the students were engaging with the sound works is kind of background drops and context.01:09:50So,01:09:53A couple of other works.01:09:55The01:09:57Again, thanks to her generosity Hong Kong Wang.01:10:01gave me access to01:10:08The southern clairvoyant Claire audience, which was a commission for every time it sound and I’ll play you a clip of that. And then the response to it by Alice Chang.01:12:51Maybe I’ll find another moment as well. Maybe near the beginning. So this is kind of group singing a song called a sugar cane song.01:13:00And that was an important anti colonial Taiwanese song and there you hit that kind of acoustic guitar version. And then you have a group of singers. All right, to sing it. Yeah.01:13:23And this combination of kind of protest and collectivity, and when I say humor and laughter to is really captured in Alice Chang’s response, which are which are used to a different kind of01:13:36Musical medium to communicate.01:13:49Language that surrounds us so we can only feel in the ways that we have learned it is possible01:14:00Today,01:14:58Condition.01:15:07So much so, type a lot01:15:10To01:15:13Me so watch01:15:19Alice Ching.01:15:22Responding to in her own way to Hong Kong Wayne’s seven Claire audience. And let me just do a couple more of these.01:15:33One piece that was really01:15:37Important when I first heard it was Charles Curtis’s arms do em Curtis.01:15:45cellist and a composer who worked with Alvin Lucier and and other01:15:51Composers very important musician and just the way he begins this piece I want you to hear, and then I’ll show you let you listen to a work by Turman McDermott who incorporates part of our museum into her dialogue with the artist Nikki chopper.01:16:15Every time I01:17:21This is our01:17:24Charles Curtis and I’m speaking to you from Southern California. In fact, I’m sitting in my car in Southern California on the side of the street. It’s DARN IT IS MARCH 5 2017 9:30pm it’s very quiet.01:17:46There’s a white dog running around and it’s very dark.01:17:52So our new song is my piece, which I am reading to you and it is a set of specimens is a sampling01:18:04texts that I have assembled by authors of my like ideas that speak to me. And these are ideas that range through a lot of different subjects that had to do with SOUND MUSIC MUSIC making01:18:21As I am a musician, but also our presence. Our being in the world through music and through sound and also the concept of unison and the concept of the01:18:36Gap the division. The unbridgeable distance between what we would like to see as unison. What we would like to see as a01:18:48Uniting of ourselves with the world. I suppose I think that’s what I’m talking about.01:18:56Okay, that was a Charles Curtis with arms, who am. And as I said, to this is Tammy Tammy McDermott, and her01:19:05Response which engages with the artist nicking Chopra and01:19:10I’ll just add that01:19:16It will take me maybe a few minutes to find the right section. This is the salad.01:19:23Cassandra press reader pages being turned desire to master.01:19:31Brands and their01:19:33Recordings images to be determined.01:19:49As follows draw a straight line and follow the01:19:56Instructions, frankly, the musical compositions are not told what the reference for straightness might be, but we are told to draw and follow in one motion.01:20:11suggesting a single action and only one direction. The act of doing it and what results from it. I’m not separate at all. And it seems like the straightness of the line, in fact, is to be determined in the course of the drawing of the line and not through any referred to standard for greatness.01:20:37And so what I think is visionary about this work is that it heralds an action which rigorously a basis for internal conditions.01:20:52Body, in a sense, becomes this mobile studio this place of creation, this House.01:21:03That we we we we01:21:08As we go01:21:28So that was in response to the work of nickel shopper as well as Charles Curtis is upon museum and the final01:21:39Student Engagement with01:21:42Every time I had a sound commissions is one that was a direct annotation. And this was by shall SHALL BOW an annotation of Caroline bag files of my, on my pink trombone.01:21:59There was some peace at the women’s march in the 21st of January 201701:22:07So I’ll just play shower shower version of of peace.01:22:15And I’ll tell you afterwards. The main component of the annotation.01:22:30Every day I wake up.01:22:36Every day these past few months. Oh my.01:22:45I see stars, all the time. Oh my, oh my, like, I’ve been repeatedly repeatedly knocked out out out oh my oh my oh my oh01:23:00My oh my oh01:23:04My01:23:25Morning of the 21st of January 2017 I get up get dressed, shake up the shadows and get out01:23:37Shake out the shadows shake up the shadows shake out the shadows and get us come out comment. This is the journey of the deep crowd.01:23:48This is a long Bell resonance from Washington to London Detroit Harris leads items. Awesome. Also, Rio de Janeiro Tokyo Macau Vancouver Johannesburg Berlin castle Dublin Jakarta, baby.01:24:19Daddy, Madrid.01:24:24Amsterdam Hong Kong.01:24:34And01:24:39There’s no preferred location today. And this rounded world rounding world holding world arousing world multi dimensional world say yes.01:24:55Say yes.01:25:50So that was this is Josh our bows annotations to Caroline burger files on my, on my pink trombone. And you can just about here share shares drawing or, you know, inscribed on the paper.01:26:04And also the addition of footsteps to project. There is one other important addition that happens right at the end.01:27:19Some of the student supplements to the Commission sound works every time I hear the sound and01:27:29We’re going to01:27:32shift gears a little bit here and move to01:27:39One of the radio stations that01:27:43Was very important component of the public radio01:27:48The savvy contemporary in Berlin created their own radio station savvy funk and as a way to get us there. I’m going to play you a sequence of01:28:05recordings from the Commission by Nicola and accurate on as well as Jen said Verna and then a couple of01:28:17works that were inspired by the01:28:21Savvy funk programming.01:28:24Singing yesterday’s news again by nitasha Cydia hakakian and Nicholas boothman and Danny girl and outcomes learning and then go to different times, different places and01:28:37So, but what I’ve done here is I’ve recorded I’ve recorded passages of01:28:45Me using the records because I not just the archive from01:28:50From the01:28:52Rio de Janeiro radio station, but actually buying records of the works by these artists. And so these are recordings of me putting on the records and also one other thing before getting too savvy funk. I did want to01:29:10Tell an anecdote about this attempt to archive and some of the problems that it’s caused or dialogues. I’ve had so I heard the Sharjah by any on 14th charge of annual I met and had the work of Jace Clayton who’s credible DJ and sound artist. He’s the author of the book up route and01:29:38I connected with him via email asking him if like Caroline Berg Val like01:29:45refresh icon like Hong Kong Wang, like the O’Shea to if he would be willing to share with me the file of the work that he produced for the Commission, for every time I had to sound.01:30:01And this work was called on your presence.01:30:06Let me get the exact title.01:30:10Yeah, I’ll, I’ll get involved only presence document one about an hour long coral work about nighttime police lighting in the Harlem neighborhood. And I asked Jason if he would send me the file. And I remember him replying.01:30:28Minutes. While the exact wording of the email for you so you can reply.01:30:35To my request to01:30:38Have the file because I think it was actually quite01:31:07He said,01:31:09He gives me a link to the original site and then says my look for says, however, this is basically a kind of remix thing the live performance acted upon request for broadcast01:31:19Right now it seems like it isn’t streaming apps. It was up for the exhibition time only, and please note that the piece isn’t omnipresent which hasn’t yet debuted01:31:29My impulse is to let sleeping dogs lie. There’s so much other work by me available or they’re not documentary related. Let me know your thoughts saying let sleeping dogs lie to. That’s why I’m not playing omnipresence one document one by chase clay.01:31:46Okay, so we’re going to take a little in musical interlude here to listen to these records that will get us to the Savvy from01:31:56Every footprint. So first off, Nikolai and then acting on and then send you handsome when and then on to Danny and I’m singing yesterday’s news after that.01:35:56de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de01:37:58Over Tinker feedback band one01:38:01285 Hertz 382 Hertz 764 Hertz 11.6 kilo hertz 22.3 kilohertz by deleted.01:44:16What we’re going to do for those skills within the United States.01:44:20Are going to do around the rest of the globe and whether we’re going to continue the policies that have been so on.01:44:27American. American01:46:02So they were just to have a break in proceedings, they were some of the records that I bought that01:46:10Of Commission sound works from every time I get a sound by01:46:16Life Nikolai IQ and and john st Verna as well as transitioning to our next topic, which is the Savvy funk radio station that was part of every time I had a sound, but unlike the01:46:35The other elements of the program and the condition works. This was actually creating a whole01:46:41Radio station from scratch. So not going to an already established radio station like the one in Rio de Janeiro, or in Athens Thessaloniki, I think, and Columbia.01:46:53And in the US and Rowan group as we were radio, but actually savvy contemporary the art space in Berlin that’s run by an inventor and Deacon became a new home for a new radio show.01:47:07And I’m really happy to report it as you probably know that the Savvy contemporary continues to have amazing radio programming.01:47:16Most recently, the savvis our radio streaming. I’ve been really enjoying the Sunday sessions of behind shells and we’ll have a chance to listen, even beyond document 14 savvy contemporary as a home for amazing radio01:47:36I don’t want to spend too much time here but there are some really significant moments with savvy funk and you just listened to the01:47:50Selection of singing yesterday’s news again by Natasha said A huggy again and Nicholas Bushman01:48:00Where every day, a different singer sings yesterday’s news in their own way.01:48:06And also not the sound piece by Danica01:48:16And axiom linger from the show different time different place different pitch.01:48:24But one of the records that they listening to the show and encouraged me to get this is a very strange record why about the Robert Kennedy assassination01:48:37And they01:48:40Garland linger used it in their01:48:45In their work called frequency and an anomaly about the audio tape and they lead to new discoveries about the what happened with Kennedy’s assassination01:49:01And so yeah, let’s, let’s talk a little bit about savvy funk.01:49:07And01:49:09The01:49:11The there was some connections when i when i started these these last month’s like going into detail with savvy phone. I mean, the best01:49:20Thing about savvy phone because they archived the radio shows on mix cloud. And so, just as the the radio programming station in Brazil archive selections of the Commission.01:49:37Savvy contemporary archive their own shows and these include news shows as well as weather, as well as talk radio music shows so many different variety of shows here.01:49:52I’d heard a bit about them. When I met in the USA Mota the Sharjah biennial and then heard afterwards is intermission transmission temporal I also met a former01:50:05Colleague Juno Salazar, who works on orangutans, and said that she’d been part of documented 14 and it was part of the y and k island songs by Nicholas right and Sylvia cloning.01:50:19But I just want to play a couple of moments from savvy funk.01:50:26One person that’s been very important for for my thinking about radio and specifically conceptions of feminism and environmentalism has been anti agree every party EGF.01:50:42Otherwise known as poem producer and she had a program called listen to the other disembodied voices. So let’s just listen in.01:50:53To01:50:55One of her01:50:57Shows and again I’m just choosing these things are somewhat random but01:51:05The sound of protest. That sounds like a good place to start. Go into the middle somewhere.01:51:47Having some01:51:48Difficulty loading.01:51:54Soon as it gets the01:52:02Other thing I should say about porn producer is she was part of the sound file recorded for a working document 14 by Sanjay, I have a cabbage.01:52:14Was a monument to the revolution and she helped record the international antifascist feminist front featuring Angela temperature khaki as well as other artists well creates a skinny record. Yeah.01:52:58The choice of the radio.01:54:43You want the government to resign.01:54:46Well, that was an attempt to play the sound of protest by poem producer K GP TF please look into her work and critical work variety of voices and the combination of01:55:00Discourse and sound and interruption. And anyway, it’s, it’s the kind of work that makes radio alive.01:55:10The other person. I need to call out here as an hour and I mondo01:55:17Created01:55:19The founders of South radio and her South Africa’s programming. And then last program of South Africa’s01:55:28That was said it’s a collaboration between Anna Raimondo and Eunice baba Ali and the last episode is brilliant, because they’re kind of jingle that I have at the beginning. They do a kind of live version of it. So if mix cloud. Let me make slide lets me do this live stream, a little bit.01:56:54It’s still loading little arrows chasing after each other.01:57:01You a little bit about South01:57:04South Africans, which was a sound radio show plays with the both the English words now in the literal sense now twins voice sounds01:57:16Title also folks are two possible interpretations coming from the word African01:57:22Beyond the monolithic idea and stereotypes and beyond geographic limitation relates to the word Africa, South Africa is proposes a total immersion in which the notion of boundary is lost on aesthetic and political time, space and listening emergence01:57:38reactivating South very radios archives through different voices you think that cop launches a new life performances.01:57:45By Mundo and Bella early activate initial international network to generate personal and collective perspectives about possible Africans are affecting a panorama today’s radio01:58:09Savvy.01:58:12Integration every time.01:58:16Documented quarantine radio01:58:30In South Africans grandma.01:59:02Just a few more seconds to see if we get back01:59:20Oh stop it there. But as you can imagine the01:59:24One of the best things about01:59:27This last episode of South Africans was when they did that.01:59:33That jingle kind of announcement as a live show. So the other work. I wanted to mention as well as render by mobile radio Sarah Washington and Canada alpha man.01:59:49And they know early01:59:53Engaged with different small scale.01:59:58Radio02:00:00stations around the world and talk to them about how they formed in the archives that but also questions of02:00:09Kind of different media that had been abandoned had a whole session on the MIDI desk as well.02:00:18And I mentioned02:00:20Render because that work by Sarah Washington and from them really inspired some experiments I did with with the radio and recording before I started teaching this semester. And I’ll just play your a couple of those the02:00:39Theory that the students have to read in one of my classes.02:00:45I created a kind of sound piece for. So, one for Roland bought one for02:00:53Derrida and use using render by Sarah Washington and alpha man as a backdrop and then I kind of digital voice recording reading the data. So listening just server that render unto Derek02:01:38July 22nd 2021 Unknown Speaker02:02:04Philosophy02:02:08University of Chicago Press 1982 American suggests that philosophy has always attempt to02:02:17Implement, although he is speaking of legal02:02:22expresses what may be very much02:02:36Around the world on the02:02:43dynamo02:02:45Very special place.02:02:47Today radio takes a journey.02:02:53Journey around02:02:58And then just a brief Clinton render. Bye.02:03:04From work to text. It is a fact that over the last few years, and certainly change has taken place or is taking place in our conception of language and consequently of the literary work, which was at least it’s phenomenal to see02:03:21The changes clearly with the current development.02:03:25other disciplines.02:03:27Anthropology Marxism.02:03:32Is us here in a deliberately neutral way. One does not decide to determine a beautiful to go02:03:47Another one and you using savvy as a kind of backdrop of background for other02:03:57Projects was very important specifically02:04:01The program called savvy read savvy, Doc.02:04:07The savvy contemporary team read texts from their archives02:04:13And02:04:15I took this kind of literally by recording some snippets from a kind of precursor to what I’m doing today.02:04:24Snippets from an article by one of the02:04:30People that helped organize said with the participating radio station Deutschland.02:04:37Radio02:04:39And Tina.02:04:42clapped hand created this piece, which was called02:04:50Making radio even more elastic. So you can just listen in for a few minutes. I might skip around this bit for for a little bit and then we’ll, we’ll move on.02:05:31Making radio or elastic savvy funk a document or 14 radio program technically summary savvy funk was a radio program from document of 14 in collaboration with toys lot fun, cool tour.02:05:49This text is a written record of a fictional radio broadcast technically you are listening to savvy fun on fetish Navy on Sunday, the Spanish defense ministry.02:06:00Is it actually and what kinds of storytelling. Is it. It is like the multiverse theory apply to a contemporary musical practice implement the invitation to do something here. I speak savvy fun to02:06:14Play. I think especially me to chilis dealing with this phenomenon of justice because history his radio voice. If he’s reading a very special atmosphere in the studio that was fear.02:06:26it properly, that it could be a two way thing daily routine 10 1600 1900 hours.02:06:37Program enjoying Sally fight and so on to the I read a lot about sales aren’t in recognizing every night about sound artist with white and by man as we were like, what’s the problem with that.02:06:51Selling art is also a question of listening, you know, do we listen02:06:59Professor handily singer.02:07:04just sneak peek of that.02:07:08Clarity ocean making radio even more or less static, which is kind of annotation of02:07:16Savvy Frank02:07:18Now,02:07:20We could spend a lot more time with savvy phone quicker listening to the Weather Show, we could listen to the laughter of the hyper subject by Brandon, the bell, we could02:07:31Assume that much. That was that’s there. So you got to mix cloud, you can find that archive and I definitely recommend you listening into the range of shows that they have and and what and they still have this girl savvy contemporary continues.02:07:50And look for behind shells.02:07:53Now for the last 20 minutes of this broadcast. I wanted to connect the exploration of every time I hate to sound and savvy funk.02:08:10As the radio program have documented 1402:08:15With to works that I immersed myself in while on the ground in Athens and Castle back in 2017 social dissonance by Martin and whispering campaign by Pope well02:08:28As I told you the secret of this show is the fact that I did not engage with the public radio, but I was engaging with sound and in sound in ways that resembled public radio performances and transmissions. So let me start with social distance and I not going to02:08:51speak too much about it except the fact that I went every day that I was that document to 14 both in essence of Castle castle to this one hour generational concert that was produced by the artist matching02:09:07There is a score.02:09:09Let me just read the score.02:09:11Listen carefully. The audience is your instrument to play it in order to practically understand how we are generally instrumentalist02:09:18Prepare the audience with concepts questions and movements as a way to explore the dissonance that exists between the individual narcissism that capitalism promotes02:09:28And our social capacity between how we can see ourselves as free individuals with age and see and the way that we are socially determined by capitalist relations technology and ideology reflect on the I we relation, a lot of finding social dissonance help with the collective subject.02:09:47Like the Savvy from02:09:51Singing yesterday’s news. I thought you might like to hear02:09:56The score of social dissonance being some02:10:03And this is by two of the performance of the work and in this was in Castle and this is Elaine Ian and the night02:11:16And so yeah, so social dissonance, which actually became Matins a PhD. So this was an artistic research project as well. And I’m going to just play some clips of that I’ve recorded inside social dissonance.02:11:37And02:11:38So you can hear kind of what it’s like. And the fact that I recorded these clubs is a kind of reminder to myself that I was focused on sound above image at02:11:53Documented 14 while engaging with the, the sound of social distances. So you know that the hour long performance was02:12:01Different every single time. And it was all filmed and so you can watch it on YouTube. So every single one of these episodes as well. Archived as well. So let me play you just02:12:15A couple of clips from inside social dissonance.02:12:20For us socially dissonance world.02:15:01So that is definitely and and I as part of met in social dissonance and I found out later that02:15:10The speaking in the high voice was02:15:14Kind of strategy that the performance used02:15:18In order to02:15:21Kind of change the dynamics with the02:15:25The audience.02:15:27And02:15:34Let’s see. Let me go back to another bit of singing can play tonight and Elaine, which does some of the kind of research.02:15:46Says to some of your students within the session.02:16:49Just one final clip of insights social dissonance, this was this was a moment. I remember a lot because it was02:16:57A moment in the performance where everyone gave them money and put it in the middle of the room and seeing how that would change the social dynamic so you I put my camera down to02:17:09Record what was happening and his the audio this moment.02:18:10Some of the soundscape there of social dissonance.02:18:14And02:18:16I wanted to02:18:18Move from social dissonance and how question of sound and resonances of documented 14 have continued02:18:29With the final work. I want to share with you today, which is the whispering campaign by Pope L and I’ll tell you the secret about how he may be into a thief.02:18:39Now, actually I’ll tell it to you now. So on the last day of my visit to Castle. I was walking past one of the installations of with the whispering campaign that was02:18:53Here you can hear the sound of it here. So as the speaker on top of our kind of trolley that is wheeled out every day. And this is what episode.02:19:53Ignorance is I know02:19:58Ignorance is a virtue.02:20:00So while listening to this, I ran over picked up the02:20:11Text the wall text of the Pope and I saw it and here it is in front of me here in Columbus, Ohio says Pope L born 1955 Newark, New Jersey. Whispering campaign 2016 2017 nation people sentiment language time 9438 hours, it wasn’t all hotels. For this I stole this from who created the marble.02:20:38Blocks the the artists names where I’m in Athens, and I found out later that they expected people to steal them and I failed to steal one so I waited until I was in Castle is Dr. Pope else02:20:52So, it sits with me here, reminding me of the whispering campaign.02:20:58And the elements of the whispering campaign that I wanted to bring to your attention just again in these last few minutes where the fact that it02:21:07Was these whispers that we’re located in certain places.02:21:12Is another one in amps in Athens.02:21:20Hey. Hey.02:21:22Hey,02:21:27Hey,02:21:44Oh,02:21:48Yeah.02:22:02Hey,02:22:24Hey,02:22:26While walking past one of these02:22:30Sound pieces and the whispers coming from the walls in Greek.02:22:36I asked one of the02:22:39invigilators in the museum to translate it for me. And so his that moment.02:24:29Close to02:24:33My small02:24:51That was me asking for the translation and then when I got to Castle. We’re in the oil gallery and I heard the same phrase, and so I adopted the role of translator to some of the people that were passing by.02:25:08So here is that translation.02:25:51Don’t know what it says.02:25:53In02:25:57Every language isn’t the everyone speaks the language is still a mystery.02:26:20The02:26:24Places where the whispers came from.02:26:31If I could anymore recordings02:26:40They were the sites that I engage with. I remember even going to one of the locations early in the morning. It was a park in Athens and waiting for listening for the recording.02:26:55And on the blog post that you’re reading eventually in the future that the SAM recording is a kind of sketch for and the image that is there.02:27:07For this this show for socially dissonance Frank comes from the recording and the OD on in Athens as well. So it’s very sincere to the science, but one thing and this is what connects it for me to the every time I hear the sound radio is02:27:26There were people walking around whispering as part of the campaign and also recorded on a radio station and played on the radio, as well. So02:27:37Although there are many elements of documented 14 that engaged with sound and music from composers like Alvin Lucier scratch orchestra and Cornelius cardio Pauline are the vowels. And so now keys.02:27:51And increase to as well as so many elements of the score and of sound artist like an analogy that I can02:28:00Get my Galindo instruments and you know listing the music and the scores are documented 14 would be impossible Pope L’s work is a radio work as well. And so, in many ways, belongs to02:28:16The every time I hear the sound project as well. And it’s left very good legacy. I always wonder if it’s archived somewhere. I was reading in the book that was published.02:28:27After the exhibition that conflates is called campaign and published by moose publisher and not only talks about the whispering campaign and Athens and and castle, but also an exhibition02:28:41In Chicago02:28:46pelted as well as a course on heart and knowledge that02:28:50Coach, or with documented 14 curator teacher will strike and and02:28:58The I learned in this book that02:29:04That there there are the files to exist somewhere on hard drives, but we don’t know how long they will stay there and also some other elements in this book that02:29:18Made me think about 70 phone can every time I had the sound is that folktale wanted to to make him and fire sound and in an essay02:29:30By document the 14 curator Monica szewczyk02:29:37She describes the brief meeting with Pope L and while Australia and says my meeting with the service short before. So this is purple right02:29:48We discussed early spring campaign project I’m still working on more specifics, but imagine a set of whispers who whisper 24 hours a day for 100 days. What are they, whispering secrets.02:30:00The history of the world directions to the to the on ramp of possibility. What is the relationship between the whispers, and the two cities.02:30:08Are they influence each other, somehow not sure how it could be interesting for them to echo pirate and conflate each other. Whispering as a musical form of identity making via sound.02:30:23And with those less words.02:30:26Of Hell, I will end now. And thank you for listening to socially dissonance funk.02:30:35A journey through the public radio program of documented 14 every time I hear the sound and the Savvy contemporary programs heavy funk, as well as the work social dissonance by Matt in and there were spring campaign by Pope L.02:30:51We have to remember that not every echo is golden. There are dissonant echoes as well. And I think following this path through sound through the radio on the radio.02:31:02And then into the transcription on the blog will show that rough transmission 02:31:10Of these ideas. So while the an unfinished exhibition like documented 14 has so much to teach us one of the main issues that it does teach us is about friction and the roughness and to go back to a work from Sam Commission Maria Chavez between a gunshot. And I whisper.